Experimental Listening Pattern


I agree, I’m finding less is more. I don’t listen overnight anymore. And throughout the day I don’t just set it on repeat, but let the track stop and give anywhere from 15 minutes to two hours between listens.

Taking a day off every week too.


Yes, I also do let pauses between listens. I immediately felt a great difference. It is like the effects are more immediate


Interesting. Before when I tried subliminal’s I was listening way less then I am now and I had more noticeable effects. I’m pretty sure listening throughout the night is a no-go zone. I’m going to experiment with pauzes in between tracks and also switching up subliminal’s. As in one play emperor a pauze then a play of Quantum Limitless. It might be your subconscious is creating a tolerance for a subliminal which is quiet possible as this is something that we have with everything in life.




I’m getting probably about 15 hrs from morning till bed time total listening for all subliminals. I don’t sleep with them. In the day time random breaks in between. But I keep mine on auto repeat so if I miss something it’ll just keep playing regardless. That works for me due to the nature of my work. I already know the script so I don’t think it matters what parts I miss cause I’ll catch it again.


How do you know the scripts???


@HappyHero My subconscious knows them I mean.


It’s night time here. Tonight I’m putting the subs off to experiment


I’m pretty sure it was stated somewhere the scripts are multiple times repeated throughout the track. So it does not really matter where you catch on in the subliminal again.


This is for every sub. I doubt a 45min sub will have the script repeated 1-2times


You sure about that?


I mean i expect the sub to be repeated many times and not only 1-2


Of course, that’s what I’m saying. Might be a little less on a major subliminal compared to a stacking module. But yeah… definitely repeating quiet allot of times.


I finally added Power to my stack, giving me Khan ST4, EoG ST4, Alchemist ST2 and PCC. I realized that with 4 subs, each needing 6 hours of listening time per day, I needed 24 hours. :slight_smile:

So I went back to running the masked track throughout the day and night. I am now seriously considering merging the masked and ultrasonic tracks together so I get the benefit of both.

I have to say I like the effect of listening at night. I fall asleep faster, sleep much deeper and awake more rested. Even have more “sleep” in the corners of my eyes when I wake up (what do they call that?)

The downside is that I wake up not remembering if I had any dreams and I tend to sleep somewhat longer as well.

I still recommend against following my example and running all those multi-stages in a stack. Or that many major programs in general. I may do something different starting 2020. Or I may keep the ST4’s as maintenance only during either the day or night, while focusing on the other ones the entire day.


Do we have any updates on how to find optimal listening pattern?


No real update from the creators so far but i am realy sure after following all the journals and discussions that it is totally individual how your optimal listening pattern looks like.

  1. We have people on the forum who didnt have any problems listening while working. Others get massive problems with productivity. Naturally not everybody is multitasking capable. Thats a fact i learned 30 years ago at a big airline. I was invited for a 2 day selection process to become a professional pilot. There were some tests i didnt managed well because of that fact. Doing two or three things simultaneously was hard for me. Sometimes over an hour. We discussed that lately and there were some folks which didnt had any problem while others failed. Me too.
    With subs it is similiar. You will get information every second while you try to process your conscious tasks. That can lead to a conflict and will result in an overall drop of performance. The sub isnt processed nor the work is.
    If you notice such a problem i would suggest to run the subs only at night or at times you can relax but not at work.

  2. We have people here who can not run the subs at night because the subs are disrupting the sleep pattern. Well if they are not able to integrate it on daytime there isnt any way left.
    In such a case i would run the subs only the first part of the night. The new quantum tech seems such strong that maybe less is more. There are many struggeling with headaches or other symptoms of overstrain.

Maybe it is wise to start with one or two loops and increase the number slowly until a pattern is found which fits the enviroment and the daily routine.

There will never be a optimal routine for all except they can press the exposure to one hour daily. This would be a real advance.


I have similar effects with my sub but i never had anything remotely close when running Emperor v3 for example

How many hours you think is ‘‘optimal’’ for you in your opinion?


3 hours daily or 4 loops is my maximum i can handle with quantum tech atm.
But it is essential that YOU feel good. Less or more depends on the results you get.
Starting low and increasing over time is imho the way to go.
If i feel an aversion against the sub i take a break until i have the need to start again.
Dont think that we should go with the head through the wall. Better 2 loops a day on a constant base than stopping completely after overuse with negative side effects.
But everyone has to decide for himself.

And very important for me: I didnt bought the subs to feel bad…


I also want to add that a rest day and pauses between loops seem to be pretty effective.
Although I must say that I only got the ticket to the mind-cinema when I listened to v4 ultrasonic for 3 hours or so. Anyway, since there is a lot happening without me actually being aware of it, I will also take the week off and let my subconscious process this


I haven’t tried running Emperor V4 with Quantum Tech overnight. I think I should try it since sometimes my brain will process external stimuli into something in my dream when I am in deep sleep.