Main Discussion Thread - Q


I did get that “I need a shock to the system” feeling once, really wanting to listen to a sub with completely different goals.

As far as adaptation goes, there is of course the basic principle of what you already are doesn’t need to be processed any more. So the more the listener represents what they need to sub to do, the easier the sub is to process. And as a result, the more you can listen to it.

In this I suppose Q modules have a distinct advantage. Once you’ve “mastered” a module, you can switch it out for another one.


What about the sweet spot? Even though we’ve found it we still should try to increase the amount of exposure from time to time, right?


When weight training, it helps to train the maximum you can do once a week, while staying in the sweet spot the rest of the week. That may or may not translate to subs as well. It depends on whether or not listening to subs also over time increases the amount of subs the mind/subconscious can process at any given time.

If our minds actually adapt to be able to process more subs or process them faster, then periodically doing a controlled overload may be helpful.

But right now, the official line of thinking is that a lot happens during the pauses/resting periods. I have no idea if there is an optimal amount of rest which we have yet to discover.


Also taking into account and learning tricks around the limitation of the tendon in relation to muscle. Since tendon will limit the ability to lift harder it is better to say work more often than harder.

Once the muscle size reaches a certain size (Newbie gains), it will generally be much easier to be lazy, since the muscles already “Learned” (Hypertrophy is semi permanent, even under weight loss).

Attempting to maximize hypertrophy before you have muscle cells leads to maladaptive “healing”, more pain after workout doesn’t mean your growing more efficiently, or faster, just shows you worked to your current limit, and the tendon is not the limiting factor.


Is there any way to make the core stronger, more pronounced in a custom?


Yes, core + neutral results enhancers-smallest size 10

Neutral Results enhances: Jupiter, Yggdrisal, Tyrant, Deus, Omnidimensional, Pragyaa, Jupiter, Merger of Worlds- are the most neutral one’s I could think of- and added dominion

I tested Emperor Terminus with just these modules and it feels like Emperor Q on steroids- exactly what I was looking for. I still really like my other Emperor custom and I wanted one that was more pure like Emperor Q.


Hm, seems like you have two Jupiter in there? @Azriel


lol, one was supposed to be saturn :frowning:

Here is the mix

Emperor Core
2. Omnidimensional
3. Deus
4. Pragyaa
5. Tyrant
6. Dominion
7. Divine Will
8. Yggdrasil
9. Jupiter
10. Merger of the Worlds


He would have chosen Pluto, but it’s not a planet anymore. :wink:


you know me well :slight_smile:


I wonder how QLQ stage 4 and Alchemist stage 4 would be at T squared lol. Would certainly be interesting to see if it upgraded your mind or fries it lol.


I’m getting a Quantum Limitless Custom in Terminus, so I’ll let ya know.


I have them both at Terminus and it’s been fine. Not sure when /if I’ll upgrade to T2 but if you can take Mind’s eye at that level it might be worth a shot.


I have both QLQ ST4 and Mind’s Eye at terminus level in the same custom and they are acting at very different rates.


which stage(s) and is this part of your Ascended Mogul/Stark custom or one to run along side it?


T2 can be a bit…different sometimes. You may notice a lot or you may not notice anything. I now have and am running two T2 programs.

If you take a nap for an hour and when you wake, your house has moved 67,000 miles, you will notice it.

If you take the same nap and while you sleep, the entire planet has moved 67,000 miles, you will not notice it.

(The earth does in fact fly at 67,000 miles per hour. And for the most part, we don’t notice.)

Anyway, I think T2 is sometimes like that.


Heh, don’t use T2 unless you have money and time to blow. :stuck_out_tongue:

@Malkuth being an exception.


Work with T2 if:

  1. your intuition, gut, reasonable judgment, and past experiences suggest that it would be useful for you to do so

  2. you find that the Terminus build strengths of your programs or of a specific program have become utterly internalized and have leveled out and plateaued, but you still want more subliminally-driven growth

Don’t work with T2 if:

  1. You’re feeling desperate to get MORE, NOW, FASTER results and you actually haven’t really worked with standard builds.


Have you been able to compare mind’s eye at T vs. T2?


Not Terminus, but Q standard build strength.

I just started running Mind’s Eye Q Standard during my day stack two days ago. (Nice psychic question @SubliminalUser). Today will be my second day with it. I’ll plan, in general, to run it on the same days when I run Mind’s Eye Terminus2 (i.e., Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday).

You know? It already felt different after one day. T2 feels more global and big picture; Standard feels more localized and specific.

But, as always, we’ll see. :thinking:

(To my knowledge, other than custom builds, there is currently no way to listen to Minds Eye Terminus. That’s fine with me. I’m preferring to experience this larger contrast.)